Regardless of whether you are a vehicular cycling ideologue, a segregated cycling ideologue, or a naked cycling with a cowboy hat ideologue, "Far Right As Practicable" is not an effective law. It is an ineffective law because it is not enforceable. "Ride at the far right edge of the roadway, except when you decide not to" is not an enforceable law and is doomed to failure in accomplishing its intended purpose, whatever that may be.
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I don't know how states could more clearly define and codify the operating position of bicycles on their roadways.
i think the onus is on the bicycling community, municipalities and law enforcement to more clearly communicate what the means for bicyclists and the motorists encountering them.
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Originally Posted by High Roller
FRAP is CRAP
I think we need jerseys that say this.
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Regardless of whether you are a vehicular cycling ideologue, a segregated cycling ideologue, or a naked cycling with a cowboy hat ideologue, "Far Right As Practicable" is not an effective law. It is an ineffective law because it is not enforceable. "Ride at the far right edge of the roadway, except when you decide not to" is not an enforceable law and is doomed to failure in accomplishing its intended purpose, whatever that may be.
What state has the law worded like this?
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I think we need jerseys that say this.
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along with more 'Cyclists Allowed Full Lane' T-shirts.
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I think we need a new way of thinking about bicycles and cars altogether.
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What wording would you put in it's place?
"Cyclists have full use of any lane that serves their purpose."?
With FRAP and the exceptions to it FL and other states have that now. The option of where to ride is up to the cyclist, according to the cyclist's call as to their safest lane position.
The laws that are total garbage are laws that restrict cyclists from the road. Particularly if bike lanes or other "infrastructure" is present.
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What wording would you put in it's place?
"Cyclists have full use of any lane that serves their purpose."?
With FRAP and the exceptions to it FL and other states have that now. The option of where to ride is up to the cyclist, according to the cyclist's call as to their safest lane position.
The laws that are total garbage are laws that restrict cyclists from the road. Particularly if bike lanes or other "infrastructure" is present.
IMHO the problem with FRAP is that the onus is on the cyclists to prove that their lane position is as far right as practical and safe and if they get hit by a car in that lane position that basically negates the cyclists position as safe so at best you have an accident with both parties at fault and worst the cyclist at fault even though the motorist is doing 50mph on a 25mph road and made no attempt to cross the double yellow to pass the cyclists. At least that how it seems to work here in a contributory negligence state.
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It is an ineffective law because it is not enforceable. "Ride at the far right edge of the roadway, except when you decide not to" is not an enforceable law and is doomed to failure in accomplishing its intended purpose, whatever that may be.
Sure it's enforcable, it's easy. Cop decides he doesn't like the look of you and thinks you don't belong out in the road. He pulls you over, tells you that you aren't "close enough" to the curb, he gives you a ticket. He doesn't bother stating a measurement of how far over you were, just threatens you if you try to complain; its your word against his and he has authority.
There you go, enforced, and it fulfilled its intended purpose of letting cops tell you what to do without any solid backing other than their own opinion. Very effective.
Originally Posted by High Roller
FRAP is CRAP
I think we need jerseys that say this.
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Regardless of whether you are a vehicular cycling ideologue, a segregated cycling ideologue, or a naked cycling with a cowboy hat ideologue, "Far Right As Practicable" is not an effective law. It is an ineffective law because it is not enforceable. "Ride at the far right edge of the roadway, except when you decide not to" is not an enforceable law and is doomed to failure in accomplishing its intended purpose, whatever that may be.
What state has the law worded like this?
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I think we need jerseys that say this.
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I think we need a new way of thinking about bicycles and cars altogether.
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What wording would you put in it's place?